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  Bad memory

  by Mrs Smith in

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  when i was in my teen years i spoke to an ms and his wife about the physical abuse i had to endure from my father.

  while they acted very concerned nothing was done about it.

  no one ever spoke to me about it again and my father was never spoken to either.

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  My wife observed a, literal, beating of a child in the women's bathroom at a DC. It was so bad all the Sisters cleared the bathroom except one woman. My wife stopped the sister from abusing her daughter. The sister dragged he crying daughter from the bathroom. My wife and the other woman went to the DC "headquarters" and told of the incident. She observed the brothers just ignoring her until she, loudly, stated: "Either you all get something done on this or I will call the police."

  All hell breaks loose: they jump up, retrieve the abusive sister, etc.

  Two weeks later, we have an Elder visit: topic: "Why would you defame the name of Jehovah by dragging the police into this?"

  This was the second of two abuse situations reported to the elders that resulted in a do-nothing response.

  The pedaphile abuse cover up came as no surprise to Mrs. Williams.

  Mrs. Smith, I wish you the best in dealing with the results of WT ignorance and arroance in your life.

  Yours in this Struggle,

  V
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  Ok - I won't hide from a coward anymore.......

  by AK - Jeff in

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  ok, ok, you told me so.

  if there is a 'stalker' watching - then here is what i say to you....... you are an absolute coward, afraid to face me!

  oh, and one other thing........... .

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  Jeff,

  Good for you, bro!

  These types are jerks.

  They remind me of the ones in the Battle Line of Israel that were pissing thier armour when challanged by Golieth. The WT paints us as the "giant." Trouble is, if that were true, there is not ONE "David" amoung them.

  Truth is, the situation is reversed. Here on this board and amoung those of us resisting the WT earthwide, there are many, many "Davids." We HAVE come into the open field, away from Line or Wall, and have challanged the "giant" of the WT. We have done that, alone, in our individual lives.

  The Elders prove themselves the little "wise ass" that sits on the wall calling down names from his place of safety. They won't come into the open and fight toe to toe.

  Who ever this gnat is pestering you...shrug it off till it gets splattered in a good slap...your's or other's.

  Welcome back: your posts are kind and balanced and wise: they help balance mine!

  Yours in this Struggle,

  V
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  Are elders more "pure" than the other JW's ?

  by JH in

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  i always considered elders like "cops" in the congregation, looking into other people's business and looking for faults.

  they give the impression that they are pure and do no wrong and by the fact, they can judge others and counsel them.. i'd love to turn the tide around and find out about their faults and sins.. .

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  There is an elder in Neosho, MO that was DF'd three times (I was thinking it was twice, however, I am fairly sure it was three...) for adultry. This guy was talking to me in the mid seventies, while I was at that little junior college over there, and I had asked about an "apostate" book. He said you did not need to read all that: just read the WT books and mags and you will be ok.

  So, this guy was an ex-big business guy. He had an "office" in the apartment they lived in. Real pom-pus type. Strutter. So, here he goes about IN THE CONGREGATION, placing his penis in the bodies of women not his wife. Not just once......

  Another elder here in Monett: same thingd: he is still an Elder.

  Another Elder from Aurora was pressuring my daughter to marry him. This guy is nuts. He stated in the WT meeting we were lyers. I called a couple of other Elders in two other congs. They had had the same issue with him. They contacted the Elders in Aurora. I told him if he kept up his nutty-ness he would be removed. He said: "All I have to do is follow the rules and I would get my elder-ship back." He was deleted five years or so ago. He is, no doubt, back on the roles.

  As I understand, one of the Elders that DF'd me for not lying as a pledge of loyalty, was DF'd for adultry, just recently.

  This could go on and on. I have seen so much fecal matter in the form of Elder/MS actions and emotions. Elders "pure?"

  Yeah....most are pure "something:" what that "something" is is up for grabs....

  Shaking my head,

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  Moon Landings - Real or Fake?

  by Black Man in

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  i've always wondered about this, especially recently.

  i've always contended that they were real and ignored the conspiracy theories.

  but if they were real, why hasn't nasa been able to send a man to the moon since the 1970s?

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  My mom, now eighty, has, always, NOT believed in the moon landings. She thinks it was done on a movie set.

  The day after Kennedy was shot, our neighbor came over and said they should hang Oswald. My parents told him it was a CIA or FBI hit...Kennedy, because he was rich and independent, was too much a threat to the status quo.

  Mix my parents and the JWs together and, well, here I am.....

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  Someone is Lying.....

  by R.F. in

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  so my ex called a little while ago.

  she said she was calling to check on me out of concern.

  i've been to 2 meetings in a month.

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  Hang tough.

  Wishing you strength and patience,

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  Killing time during meeting...

  by brunnhilde in

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  i used to balance my checkbook sometimes.

  another favorite was unsticking the pages of a new bible or folding back the dogears of an old one.

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  Vernon Williams

  Hey,

  Welcome to you new posters: glad you are on the board!!

  I ALWAYS paid attention, took notes....I think you guys are naughty and very, very bad association:

  Hope we get to know one another better!

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  New Video by Brother Prince!!!!!A faithful and true Witness....

  by aquagirl in

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  check out this astounding new brother prince video..black sweat...very discreet,id say...its in yahoo music.cant get the link to paste..can anyone help?it would be a great lesson for sunday morning...yum!!!!

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  Vernon Williams

  I have a couple of questions:

  For you guys that have worked in the art department at the WT Headquarters: is this video represenent how the models "get in the mood" for some of the illustrations showing immoral situations?

  The parady video....the guy looked like a young Hitler: I had posted, yesterday that the Nazis and the JWs were similar: just an odd co-incidence.

  If the brothers watched more videos like this before going into a JC meeting perhaps thier lust levels would be satisfied enough so they would not ask such pervy questions. Don't know.....

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  Who masterminded the WT mind control 'routine'? Was it deliberate?

  by Gill in

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  is the wt policy of five meetings a week, daily text, book study prep, book study, thursday meeting prep, thursday meeting, watchtower pre study, public talk, watchtower study, a deliberate ploy to keep the members under mind control?.

  is this 'routine' carefully thought out and planned by someone or did the watchtower society just evolve this way 'accidentally'?.

  is there a 'mastermind' at work aiming to keep jws tightly under mind control and if so , who is it?.

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  I still study older WT literature...much like a lawyer going over contracts.

  I must say this: it is mindless repetition. Over and over and over: like a scene from a Pee Wee Herman movie going over and over and over: never ends. (.....and over....did I mention that, agian?..over and over....Gawd.....)

  Also, the "shaded" meanings of the words: likely, seemingly, probably...somebody posted all these words on a post several weeks ago. Then, they go forward as if it were fact.

  The level of writing...as I said before it would bore an intelligent eighth grader in a few minutes.

  The WT is, still, as we have been saying, a PRINTING company. Notice everything mentioned is IN PRINT. Every way you turn you have something in your hands that is a potential profit maker. Once that is understood, everything falls in place. It is not so much mind control as it is a by product of publishing. Is this wierd or what?

  I am sooooooo thankful to not be wrapped up in that mess, now,

  V (oh....and over and over....)
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  And, maybe, it is not too late.

  by nvrgnbk in

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  and it is also time to end the nightmare of slavery to the diseased ideals of mindless growth, rapacious consumption, and the utterly insane notion that unrestrained self-interest ought not be controlled.

  though the fundamental freedom to pursue one's own interests is absolutely vitaleven sacred and must be protectedwe must stop justifying the cruel, unrestrained pursuit of wealth and power.

  we must stop glorifying greed with the now popular lie that unfettered avarice is our best guide down the path of the greatest good for the greatest number!

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  jgnat,

  Just woke up...to groggy to think....I think I liked your response at the top of the thread....good job...I think...

  (Yawn....)

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  The WTS sounds more and more like strickly a business to me.....

  by R.F. in

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  2. beliefs

  there was yet another disfellowshipping going in my congo announce the other night.

  that makes 6 i believe now, 5 i'm sure of that have been dfed in the past year or so in my congo alone, and they don't seem to be making any effort towards reinstatement.

  i know the reasons behind all those, that's why i know they were dfed and not daed.

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  R. F.,

  True.

  The WT is a business organization and, like all businessess, it must protect the bottom line at all costs.

  This means, first and foremost, keeping the presses rolling as that is where the profit comes from. Second, they need complete control of the distribution system.

  Only the Nazis had this much concern for control, standardization of person, and numerical data.

  Sick, sick bunch.

  Glad you seem to be ok....

  Take care,

  V